Davisville Could Become Destination for Cargo Barges [poll]

Twelve state legislators are proposing that the ports at Davisville and Providence could become hubs for cargo barges.

A dozen state legislators are recommending the ports of Davisville and Providence could take larger roles in the East Coast shipping industry.

A Port Commission of state representatives released a report Tuesday, suggesting that the two Rhode Island parts could become destinations for cargo barges if shipping lanes are properly dredged. The commission recommends that the state issue roughly $7.5 million bonds to dredge Davisville and the shipping lane between Quonset and Jamestown.

According to the report, Rhode Island (which once hosted one of the most prosperous commercial centers in colonial times and grew once again during World War II) has "fallen well behind" other states along the Atlantic coast in terms of port and maritime activity. The commission points to the rapid development of major deepwater container ports in areas like New York and New Jersey as one of the reasons for this. 

Today, port-related economy in the Ocean State generates $320 million in economic activity and employs more than 3,600 people According to the commission's projections, augmenting the ports of Davisville and Providence could add another 1,000 jobs to that total, as well as $127 million in business revenue and more than $8 million in state and local tax revenues.

Geography may work in Rhode Island's factor, as major distributing centers for Target and Walmart may opt for closer ports in the state over the Delaware River Ports.

Paul Marshall February 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Here in the "Ocean state" we need to focus on what we do best: Maritime industries and commerce. It's no mistake that the finest Grad School of Oceanography is here at URI, Dr. Bob Ballard-the worlds' greatest oceanographer is here, Gen. Dynamics' most productive division WORLDWIDE is here at Quonset....we are the "gateway to the north Atlantic. It makes sense to make best use of our natural resources, as long as we don't scam it or screw it up (like we do sooo much else here!...stop voting democRAT).
MeanE February 16, 2012 at 01:43 PM
Would love to hear what Dr. Bob Ballard and others at URI have to say about what the impact of additional shipping would have on the Bay. It seems to me that RI has worked hard over the years to clean it up and I would have concerns that increased shipping would have us taking a step backwards environmentally.
Paul Marshall February 16, 2012 at 01:51 PM
Mean one: have you noticed something missing in our state? Like those unimportant little things like: JOBS, our kids, tax revenues, businesses, employers? We're not talking about setting off a nuclear bomb in the bay. Get real. And, how did our resources become the private domaine of the environMENTALists? The scare tactics by the environmental lobby is bordering on a scam on the taxpayers.
MeanE February 16, 2012 at 02:54 PM
So the only way jobs can come to our state is by possibly polluting what we do best? I am not an environmentalist, I do care about the environment. I asked a simple question as to what the folks you mentioned might think about this idea, as they are much more knowledgeable then you or I. I am all for creating jobs, but that doesn't mean it has to be at the expense of diminishing our greatest resource. How many jobs will a cargo port provide? Norad Employs 260. Toray Employs 589. Maybe there are other industries similar to Toray that would like the location based on train, boat, air, and highway that could employ even more employees then large Cargo lots?
BG February 16, 2012 at 03:49 PM
Go back to 2001-2002, folks, to the Almond administration. The port ideas have already been vetted and vetted for environmental impact as well as job creation, including the barge idea. I worked on that project ten years ago and my recollection is that barges are very, very low impact yet would bring considerable jobs.
MeanE February 16, 2012 at 04:26 PM
Would love to see those reports. Sounds like it was a no brainer, so why didn't it happen? There must be another side to the story?
MeanE February 16, 2012 at 05:24 PM
Why does 7.5 million dollars need to be spent to dredge when Huge Norad boats come into Quonset just fine? If they are talking about "barges", theoretically shouldn't they have no problem as they are not "deep water" vessels? Also interesting that in Lincoln's plan the cost to dredge for deep water was $3 billion. I am skeptical.
NKGOP Watch February 17, 2012 at 04:23 AM
Seems like Larry "Earwig" Ehrhardt climbed the ladder to office by standing against the container port the last time. Now that he is still in office, what does he have to say and what will he do now? The reporter of this story should look at his past and ask "what now" since the same basic proposal is being made, open a port which will produce far more ugly, polluting, non-native-species-dumping foreign ships than it will jobs.
Paul Marshall February 17, 2012 at 12:55 PM
@NK (or whoever you are hiding behind a silly penname):How SAD FOR YOU that you call names. "Larry Earwig" Earhardt??? Let's look at YOU for a second. To freightened to use your real name-shows you're dishonest. Eager to try lamely and childishly, to attack people of integrity using fallacious arguments-shows you are foolish to waste our time and ignorant to think the honest reader will give them any value. If anyone is producing anything "ugly, polluting, and non-native" here, it's you. Stop wasting our time.
Paul Marshall February 17, 2012 at 01:03 PM
Ship captains have shown me charts of the shipping channels. They are deep enough to accomodate just about anything. Close-in channels are not. What we do best is according to any metric, is create design and profit from deepsea equipment. How much of our worlds' resources are under watrer? (If 70% of our planet is submerged). To turn from this is to seal our fate. Reflexively ignoring our potential use of our natural resource of global location is naiive and self-destructive. (Especially using past mistakes as an indicator of future behavior). Since so much of that is going on now, how is that working out for us?
Paul Marshall February 17, 2012 at 01:08 PM
If you honestly want to see these reports (and I'm skeptical now) there's a great library at the statehouse-3rd floor. I'd be happy to drive you, introduce you to the head librarian. I've visited it many times. There are also libraries available at the RI Historical Society, a great resource at Providence City Hall 4th floor-happy to introduce you to any of these. Just let me know.
MeanE February 17, 2012 at 02:15 PM
Paul, it is 2012. I was looking for a link to such reports. Who was behind the study? Was it independent? Again, why didn't it happen if it was such a great idea, that would not harm the Bay and create thousands of jobs? I am sure you will tell me that it failed because of the left wing nut jobs in this state. Even if that is why, they were obviously the majority. Are you an authority on this subject because you went to the library? Don't act like a know it all Paul, it is unbecoming of you. I asked for a little more info regarding the last attempt that failed, I found some through google searches. I am a concerned citizen that happens to enjoy time on the bay and want to know for certain that the bay will not be adversely affected for the sake of creating jobs. I have questions. It seems that you have all the answers.
Paul Marshall February 17, 2012 at 03:10 PM
What person hides behind a pen-name "MEAN-E" ? Someone emotionally... "challenged"? Unstable? Who uses appeals to emotion as a basis for persuasion? I point to the obvious resources around the state because you obviously never use them. From your attitude and manner of inquiry, it's apparent to the common folks like me, that you can't think of anyone but yourself. You falsely assert that commerce on the bay will by definition have a negative effect. Today's WALL STREET JOURNAL (pg A14) article ."..angles for trade" indicates otherwise in Los Angeles/Long Beach where the port envoronment is actually improving as trade increases. But, hey, don't let me confuse the issue with the facts! You have your mind made up. That businesses are bad, unions are good and government should grow endlessly. So, how's that working out for us so far? As we witness our JOBS< KIDS< NEIGHBORS AND EMPLOYERS ALL LEAVING OUR STATE? Just how is that liberal mindset working out for us? STOP voting democRAT.
CBA February 17, 2012 at 03:38 PM
The name calling and plain mean-spiritedness of some folks who post here is just plain disheartening.
MeanE February 17, 2012 at 03:39 PM
Very predictable response on your part Mr. Marshall. When did I say that commerce on the Bay would have a negative effect? Am I a Democrat? Not a chance, I can't stand most politicians no matter what side of the aisle they reside. I look at each issue with an open mind, unlike you. If everyone is leaving the state, what is stopping you? If you can't stand the liberal mindset, get the hell out! There are states where the majority will have the same views as you. I am not a fan of most unions, I am all for business, and I don't like the government. So I am not sure why you think you know everyone that posts on this site. I am so unstable because of a pen-name? Paul Marshall you are right, you are better then everyone that has a pen-name, you are better then all liberals. As I said you have all the answers, sorry for asking questions, I am just emotionally unstable. MeanE actually has to do with a college mascot. LOL
Paul Marshall February 17, 2012 at 03:44 PM
Chinese proverb: He who uses profanity admits to losing the argument.
NKGOP Watch February 19, 2012 at 03:53 AM
Sorry to make you two NKGOP'er's so upset. I was just using the nickname I heard so many others use for that lying carpetbagger Larry EARWIG Ehrhardt. Check with his neighbors. Ask about what he did with his 'authority' when he was on CRMC. One good thing I can say about that NK republican is that he's getting too old to stay in office much longer! By the way, when the Halley scandal was in full swing with the town and its children held hostage by halley and his scummy administration and supporting NKGOP contingent, Ehrhardt told the president of Operation Clean Government that he 'knew nothing about the details', when I asked around for people to count just the emails sent to him (not counting phone calls, face to face and letters, etc), it was IN THE HUNDREDS. A slimy earwig if there ever was one.
Paul Marshall February 19, 2012 at 03:24 PM
"Check with his neighbors"...what are we in JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL here? "Slimy earwig" it's laughable that you use phrases like these and view them as valid dialog. Who does this? It's like Firemen yelling threats at the Town Council. How does this advance the conversation? It shows lack of discipline, deficiency in work ethic and a GIANT lack of respect. These are bullying tactics that have brought us to the diasterous condition. Your hatred for others is appalling.
NKGOP Watch February 20, 2012 at 01:14 AM
PAUL MARSHALL VERSION: (Lets see your reply NOW!) lol By the way, when the Halley scandal was in full swing with the town and its children held hostage by halley and his scummy administration and supporting NKGOP contingent, Ehrhardt told the president of Operation Clean Government that he 'knew nothing about the details', when I asked around for people to count just the emails sent to him (not counting phone calls, face to face and letters, etc), it was IN THE HUNDREDS.
NKGOP Watch February 20, 2012 at 03:51 PM
PAUL MARSHALL still silent...
Paul Marshall February 20, 2012 at 03:58 PM
Halley? Did I touch a nerve? Please let's stay focused on the issues and refrain from personal attack. Ad Hominem attacks are illegitimate argument. Bullying, yelling (big capital letters) is childish. ...What's next? You coming to my house and kill my dog? Key my car? Demeaning others just demeans yourself. Once bankruptcy gets going, it is a federal issue and we all suffer. Corrupt local judges will be out of the process. The pain will be grievous and longterm. We brought this on ourselves. We need jobs, we need to attract entrepreneurs and investors. Not more government and unions. All this other stuff is nonsense. Truly sad.
NKresidenttaxpayervoter February 20, 2012 at 05:45 PM
All ahead full! Bring those containers in by the thousands!! Teamsters driving the trucks, longshoreman loading and unloading the barges. Should have been done years ago. It's working for the auto industry. Cars are coming in by the thousands! And hardly anyone notices.


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