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State Lawmakers Propose Casino at Quonset [poll]

Rep. John Carnevale and Rep. Joseph Trillo are proposing a casino at Quonset Point.

Quonset Point hosts one of the largest defense contractors in the country and the second largest auto importer on the East Coast, but it may become home to a new casino.

The Associated Press is reporting that Rep. John Carnevale (D-Providence) and Rep. Joseph Trillo (R-Warwick) are drafting a proposal to build a casino at the former naval base in North Kingstown, looking to boost the state's economy and create a tourist attraction. According to Carnevale, Quonset's nearby highways, an airport and a deep-water port able to accommodate cruise ships make it a favorable location.

Carnevale and Trillo are now finalizing the details of their plan. The proposal comes amidst the casino debate in Massachusetts, after the state authorized up to three casinos and a slot parlor. Rhode Island leaders are now looking at various gambling proposals.

NKRI Transparency January 04, 2012 at 07:07 PM
Wickford101: constructive raising of revenue is good, cutting waste and mis-management is better......we need to resolve much in RI.
NKtaxPAyerAlso January 04, 2012 at 07:39 PM
I 100% agree with MeanE! If we see a tax revenue from it them I'm all for it, not then all it is going to do is stretch our public safety even thinner than it already is. It would have to be privately run. I'm sure the state wold just screw it up. But think of the Opportunity we have here, it could bring people by boat, air, and rail.
Wickford101 January 04, 2012 at 07:46 PM
the state of RI could mess up a ham sandwich.
paul January 04, 2012 at 08:54 PM
I don't like the idea of gambling being the major source to funding to educate our kids and provide jobs... since it doesn't "build" anything. But have felt for the last 10 years that if gambling is to come Quonset would be a GEM. It could be teamed with possible amusement family parks, golf and other recreations. Access is the best anywhere by roads, new Rail in NK, air and deep water ports. It seems a no brainer...
Mutato January 04, 2012 at 08:57 PM
Connecticut spent all their extra money coming in from Casinos ($3 Billion deficit). Makes you wonder what will happen if we get that money as well. It goes "bye-bye". The more you get, the more you spend. It's not going to help in the long run. http://ctmirror.org/story/8077/states-revenue-forecast-improves-deficit-still-looms-large Keep Quonset for legitimate businesses.
Mutato January 04, 2012 at 09:03 PM
FYI for all who forgot to vote on this. Twice. "In 1994, voters rejected a casino measure, and again in 2006, when voters defeated a measure for the proposed construction of Narragansett Indian casino in West Warwick. That measure was defeated with a vote of 141,806 (37%) to 241,986 (63%)." Let's leave this issue alone and figure out how to grow RI by hard work. Not by "cheating".
Wickford101 January 04, 2012 at 09:29 PM
yeah, cause Quonset Corp is doing a greeeeaaat job of keeping businesses in the park. have you seen the Lowes parking lot these days.. not a single car... oh wait a minute. EPIC FAIL. If your in the market for taking a tour of open fields, little planted trees, and huge berms, take the Quonset tour. It's free.
Stephen Greenwell (Editor) January 04, 2012 at 10:08 PM
North Kingstown can't even agree on a wind turbine. Obviously, a casino is going to just pass right through easily... It's shocking, just shocking, that the two reps proposing this aren't from the town.
EG January 05, 2012 at 12:33 AM
Thumbs up!
EG January 05, 2012 at 12:36 AM
Look, as a business leader and considerate to social/environmental responsibility. This is a gift to the NK area and RI. Use it.
time 2 go January 05, 2012 at 12:44 AM
I say yes, only if the Narragansett's run it!
Steven Storti January 05, 2012 at 03:36 AM
This is a long time overdue and yes the Narragansett's should run it, they deserve the chance and can't possibly do a worse job than the state. Although I do think a professional casino company should develope and manage it. Its a perfect location and both NK and the State would benefit. The jobs alone would reduce the unemployment rate to managable levels, educational internships for NK students and an expansion of the local tax structure would be wonderful and the businesses in the vicinity would see a hugh surge in revenue. There isn't much of a downside. But I do expect a huge outcry from the Catholic Diocese of RI due to fears of losing dollars to gambling. Since the Bishop has at least 4 legislators in his pocket and can exert huge pressure on the rest its a long shot. Maybe if the State presents a casino as an alternative to taxing all current religious institutions in the State the catholic heirarchy might be uncharacteristically quiet on the issue. If cutting waste in the State is the issue, start by eliminating all the tax breaks for religious institutions and personnel. Go to your town/city hall and ask for a list of the tax exempt religious properties and be amazed!
Scott Madison January 05, 2012 at 04:10 AM
Wouldn't it be more prudent to expand the two existing slot locations into full blown casinos? The costs of building a completely new operation would far outweigh expansion of Newport Grand or Twin River...
john boscardin January 05, 2012 at 04:32 AM
I like the idea, but unfortunately when Twin River came to be, a law was created that says if any new casinos are built in the state, the state must re-imburse Twin River for any and all lost revenue. Sounds crazy I know. But truth is stranger than fiction sometimes.
Steven Storti January 05, 2012 at 05:12 AM
The two existing location are woefully inadequate to be competitive, have you ever been? If so compare them to foxwoods facilities and then ask yourselk why we shoulden't start from scratch. As far as re-imbursing twin rivers for anything, well look at their revenues. Their fiscal reports to the State either prove mismanagement or outright criminal neglect. They should be allowed to compete with a new casino according to free market rules. Personally I do not think THIS State should be running anything except itself. Its only another outlet for political cronyism employment. Let Harrahs come in and run it and just turn over tax revenues and land use fees. Let Harrah's assume the financial risk! I bet the sponsors of the non-competitive clause personally benefited, after all this is RI!
Govstench January 05, 2012 at 11:06 AM
This topic keeps popping up - where is the creative thought process. The state is grappling to find some quick money source as they are fearful of losing a portion of that $300 Million dollar revenue stream from Twin Rivers. Massachusetts has plans to construct casinos around the state. Foxboro residents came out and said NO, not in our backyard! Why? They have a big enough headache with the Patriots and the demand on their services. Casinos do nothing to contribute to the local economy. Initially there are construction jobs but after that, its all low paying positions. Quonset Point has been developing their industrial park for years. Over ten thousand good paying jobs! Because Rep. Trillo has been bitten by the casino bug, he thinks Quonset is a good match. This same approach was tried at the Fields Point section of Providence. Must have a casino. Residents around that area wanted no part of it. Lincoln's voters have the opportunity to vote whether to allow table games at Twin River. At least they have a voice in this process. The local communities MUST have a voice on these proposals as they are the ones that will be stuck with the headaches. I am sure that residents of North Kingstown will feel the same way about a casino at Quonset. While it may look attractive, look at what your displacing there. There are more negatives than positives. The state needs to work on tax reforms and some sound economic development and stop the get rich quick schemes
Peter January 05, 2012 at 12:58 PM
Well said!
ELM January 05, 2012 at 02:04 PM
I think it is a good idea as it will bring both jobs and much needed revenue to the state. Quonset could easily handle this development. Having just spent 2 days at Mohegan Sun, I can say it was a fun and overall wholesome experience with great food, an awesome spa treatment and just a little gambling. I saw lots of families enjoying themselves. I totally disagree with Govstench above--there are MANY jobs at Mohegan in the casino, the shops, the restaurants, the spa, the maintenance, etc. This is just what RI needs!! A connector from Route 2 into Quonset would be necessary first though because otherwise East Greenwich would bear the brunt of the casino traffic and that is unacceptable. How about some stimulus money to build the connector? These are the kinds of things that really grow the economy.
NKRI Transparency January 05, 2012 at 02:36 PM
Good point ELM, lets put a casino at Quonset ensuring that with the probable exception of North Kingstown residents no one including you are affected in any way shape or form
wickchevy January 05, 2012 at 03:54 PM
Less drastic than a casino is an indoor sports complex. I heard rumors of one coming? take a look at teamworks in Warwick that parking lot is full from 6 am until 1am no joke. there is a huge need especially with our weather. "If you build it they will come" Lets go big.... indoor water stuff etc... start small with room to expand, its a no fail plan..... my opinion
Tim January 05, 2012 at 04:09 PM
Mohegan Sun is having dire financial problems. How do you think they would do if the state of RI were running things? I don't know what cruise ships draft, but when all the talk a few years ago was about a container port at Quonset, a billion dollars was being tossed around for a price tag of dredging the bay to accommodate the container ships. I don't trust RI to do anything correctly until we have more of a two party system than what we have now.
Bruce Ryerson January 05, 2012 at 04:14 PM
Little picture = great for construction, service industry jobs, and some revenue for the town and state in the short term Big picture = terrible for the individuals that get bitten by the bug of gambling, a vehicle born of desperation and false hopes,... just look at the vast majority of folks as they walk out of these places, 98% are not happy campers... "Never bet your money on another man's game". A Disneyland theme park where kids can have fun too might be an option, but alas, the winters are too foreboding, there must be other ways we can generate revenue without resorting to the same-o-same-o of gambling casinos....
CAJ January 05, 2012 at 04:29 PM
I think it is a GREAT idea. I am not fond of gambling, but you can't deny that it's going to thrive no matter if it's in CT, MA, or RI. We shouldn't shun the inevitable. Let's capitalize on it and make it a prized operation. My only concern is what happens to Newport and Twin River? Could Newport's enterprise relocate? Can the state offer a buyout to relocate? We need to consider the boom as well as the bust of the other venues that will be impacted. I giving our folks at the state house a vote of confidence to get this discussion going. Thank you Representative Carnevale and Grillo.
Nkfamily100years January 05, 2012 at 05:24 PM
I am not opposed to the idea as long as LARGE kickbacks are made to the town of North Kingstown for police and fire. A small casino with high end hotels and resturants would thrive in Quonset and impact NK very little with the exception of public safety. Think about it.......8,000 people work everyday in quonset and with the system of roads in place you hardly notice traffic or any disruption for that matter. If we are going to do it lets work together to provide NK with some revenue, the state with some revenue and a high end facility that will thrive for generations.
Ed Renehan January 05, 2012 at 06:43 PM
Although a casino might perform, given location, the jobs created will all be low-paying (at least once construction is done). Despite the Loews collapse, the business park has been doing very well thus far, growing rather steadily with high-paying professional & skilled labor positions being a heavy part of the mix. Deepwater Wind, for example, plans to use Quonset as their base for the manufacture, assembly and launch of wind turbines. (10 year lease of 117 acres, with option to renew). Electric Boat has recently finished a major expansion. NORAD is busy receiving massive numbers of cars at the port, and so forth. Since 2005, approx 2,700 jobs (most of them full-time, good-paying jobs) have been created - this despite crap economic conditions. The count right now is about 8,800 jobs in the park total. The real future of this state lies in the creation of good-paying positions re: import/export, cutting-edge technologies, and high-tech manufacturing --- not in the minimum-wage staffing of bars, gaming tables, and restaurants. Check out such firms as Cool Polymers (plastics and heat transfer solutions), Dominion Diagnostics (clinical drug testing laboratory), G&G Technologies (bioprocessing), Hexagon Metrology, Toray Plastics, etc. We've only got about 340 acres left available at Quonset. Let's reserve that space for firms such as those above.
Mutato January 06, 2012 at 01:30 AM
Well said. The reason Lowe's closed is because it's RETAIL and there are something like four major big box competitors around. Including themselves! Just dumb, building that there. No surprises. People expect super fast growth, but something like Quonset takes a long time to blossom. I mean, it took YEARS just to connect it to Rte 4. I was BORN on Quonset Point when it was a Navy Base and have seen it change over the years. Radically. But let's keep it on the path of business park type jobs.
NK WATCH January 06, 2012 at 03:09 PM
people need to stop acting like casinos are the big bad wolf!!!! they are a legitimate businesses industry that provide entertainment, JOBS & REVENUE! wake up folks, i agree it's sad to say but the days of taking the horse and buggy to the local mom and pop or 5 & dime are over! the train is leaving, hop on or get run over
NKRI Transparency January 07, 2012 at 07:08 PM
Can only imagine where the gambling money will originate to support any type of casino including Quonset
Richard January 08, 2012 at 03:49 PM
I am not against gaming. But I do have a few questions. If the whole point of the casino idea is to win the race for the gambling dollar then why not expand what is already in existence? How many jobs will be lost at Twin Rivers and Newport with the construction of a new facility at Quonset? How much revenue will be lost at both of those facilities? What data exists to show that revenues will increase with a new facility at Quonset? For those of you who have been to Foxwoods, Mohegan, LV & AC or other gaming facilities--do you venture away from the gaming area and spend money at the local businesses? Don't most cruise ships have their own casinos onboard? What do the established businesses at Quonset think of this idea? To Mr. Trillo--please share your data to any of these questions or have they even been entertained as needing answers?
teddymac August 24, 2012 at 06:47 PM
John Carnevale? Isn't he the former Providence Police Officer that was accused of raping a woman and then she died before she could testify? Yes, John lets follow your `happy tails and not put any effort into taking them serious. Put iti n your back yard anolg with you other skelaton's.

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