Zoning Board to Discuss Proposed Dunkin' Donuts in Wickford
Could Dunkin Donuts be coming to Wickford?
The North Kingstown Zoning Board of Review will discuss a proposal to bring Dunkin' Donuts to the Wickford area at its Tuesday night meeting. In August, the North Kingstown Planning Commission gave the project an unfavorable recommendation to the zoning board, citing traffic concerns in the already congested intersection.
The project would be situated on the half-acre of vacant land nestled at the intersection of Ten Rod Road and Phillips Street. The parcel in question is adjacent to the medical building at 320 Phillips Street. The proposed 3,000 sq. ft. building would be a Dunkin' Donuts on one side and another retail shop to be determined. The plan calls for 25 parking spots and would not include drive-through service.
Though a traffic study of the intersection projected the inclusion of Dunkin' Donuts to have "minimal impact" on the traffic flow, members of the North Kingstown Planning Commission questioned its validity.
Following the planning board's negative recommendation, the issue now goes to the zoning board who will approve or deny the application – submitted by Theresa Amaral and Robert and David Batista. The zoning board meets Tuesday at 7 p.m. in the town hall conference room.
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M. A. Waterbury
7:17 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
no, no, NO!!!!
palto
7:30 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
They can't be serious!!!! That's a heavily congested corner as it is, I see many accidents and lots of traffic tie up. NO!!!!!!
Diane Reilly Andrade
7:36 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
The traffic there is bad enough now.......................stop this now.
Tired of Tired
7:37 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
This town needs another Dunkin' Donuts like this State needs... another Dunkin' Donuts! I can't say it any better than MA Waterbury said 3 times. NO, NO and NO!!!!
Linda Zanghetti Sherman
7:48 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
How can anyone think this is a good idea? Is it such a hardship to drive up Ten Rod a bit to get a DD coffee? Stay strong Planning Commission!! Would love to see a gas station and liquor store in that Stop and Shop plaza, however.
PLAINTRUTH
10:12 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Is it such a hardship to drive up South County Trail a bit where there is a liquor store and 2 gas stations? Or if its OK to drive from the proposed DD up Ten Rod to get to the next DD, then it is no further to drive from the Stop and Shop Plaza to the Shell gas station at the Philip Street intersection......
Linda Zanghetti Sherman
6:34 am on Tuesday, November 27, 2012
@ PLAINTRUTH...while the basis of your response to my post is right on, my reference point is when I am using route 4 heading out on a road trip and just want to gas up and hit the road. A gas station at that major intersection with route 4 is something we need that would not have a traffic impact nor butt up closely to a small business in town, as the proposed DD would. Otherwise, you are right, several options up the road.
PLAINTRUTH
10:33 pm on Tuesday, November 27, 2012
@ Linda Sherman. Thanks for your polite reply. Makes a change on the Patch! My equally polite and hopefully helpful reply is that a gas station at the Stop and Shop plaza WOULD have a traffic impact, as it would draw thru traffic off of Rte 4 for a fill up. These vehicles would add to the many thousands that are already using that stretch of Rte 102 where the plaza is. According to a Yellow Pages search, there are already 12 gas stations in NK, with another close by on Rte 2 south, plus the 2 on Rte 2 north etc. So you must be able to use one of those without wanting yet more commercial development in our small town. Too much "convenience" simply leads to over building and more failed businesses which are an eyesore. Luckily for the residents near this area, zoning prevents a gas station in that plaza.
Jim from Exeter
7:15 am on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
A gas station (and a pharmacy)? Definitely! A liquor store, not so much.
Dave
8:23 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
100% NO, there is one 30 seconds up the street!
sharon malstrom
8:24 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
without a drive thru most people won't stop and wait for service,they don't mind waiting in a line down the road,but to get out,walk across a parking lot and be the only one inside is to much effort in this busy world
Beverly
8:59 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
We have Dunkin Donuts, Honeydew, and Jitters, all in close proximity. What are these idiots thinking?? Another coffee shop! I can't think of one sane person that would think this is a good idea.
seed and soil
9:47 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
This is a wake up call to all NK community members who value the qualities of the village area that must be preserved. NO MORE UNWANTED, UNNEEDED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. Does anyone know, is there already an NK community conservation/preservation group in place that concerned citizens could join to become involved in working towards the opposition efforts? God knows, NK is under threat and desperately needs an organized opposition group to work to represent our voice.The Noreswind folks, the Rolling Greens opposition folks have done a great job advocating for their stand. I know there is a NK Land Conservancy group. There is Histwick for the inner Wickford district. But maybe the time has arrived for all of these groups/forces to come together??!! To build upon the strengths of these wonderful individual efforts, to work towards the preservation/conservation goals valued by the majority of NK residents. Staying silent is no longer an option.....do so and NK will look like Cranston/Warwick in no time. What a disgrace that would be, when we are all graced with this coastal treasure. Stewardship is everyone's responsibility.....stay silent/unsolved at our own peril.
The time for some major zoning changes in NK is NOW. Let's come together to work to see that this happens.
OrangesPoranges
11:13 am on Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Agree 100 percent!
Nancy Lanni
10:05 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
This is a very bad idea. Please attend the hearing on Tuesday 11/27 to oppose.
seed and soil
10:53 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Nancy....folks have seen over and over again, that all the meeting attending under the sun makes no difference. Current leadership (Hueston/Bestwick) has made it very clear through their voting actions that they've been bought and paid for by the likes of developer pal Hawkins. It's time for a more formally organized, well funded private community/concerned citizen group to take root and take back our town. Let's hope that when the new council is seated, preservation/conservation wisdom will prevail.
Midlife Momma
10:09 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
The impact on this intersection would be HUGE-who are they kidding with the "minimal impact" statement?!
When the Shell station at that intersection was closed for several weeks for upgrades the traffic moved through so much more smoothly.....adding a DD on the opposite corner is a HUGE negative on the traffic at that corner....NO!! NO!! NO!!!
Ed Renehan
10:24 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
This would be a traffic disaster. That intersection is already a nightmare.
jeff barry
10:27 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Med regular please.
NK Parent
10:32 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
100% agree with everyone else. This seems like a horrible idea.
Straight Talker
11:04 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
New commercial on one of the busiest intersections in town? Close to other commercial outlets? Unwanted by the public judging by the comments so far on Patch? Well, if the Planning Commission was consistent with its recommendations and if special interests truly play no part in their decisions, then they would have voted FOR this application. I am not in favor of it, but these same three facts about traffic, nearby commercial and public opposition also apply to the Rolling Greens project, but they voted in favor of that one. Makes you wonder......
Bowiefan
11:08 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
First of all, if this really matters to you, show up at the zoning board meeting! This a disaster of a proposal on several fronts. (1) the congestion @ that intersection is already heavy. (2) it's an intersection serving a school ! (3) Yet another example of needing to keep the lid on chains (& bigboxes) to not hurt our present local coffee shops (Jitters, Updike's Newtowne, Honeydew, even Shell sells coffee. How far do we have to take convenience? Where do we draw the line. Seriously, there is a DD up Post Rd and also up Ten Rod near Home Depot.. How many do we need? EG has a DD @ their 4 way intersection of Post & First and it's a menace for traffic going south out of town w/ people stopping suddenly to turn into DD.
Lori Mac
12:46 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
I agree and why does there have to be anything there. Especially with the school and the cross walk at Preston Drive. No one ever stops for pedestrians there! Kids trying to get to and from school? Again BAD BAD BAD idea.
MeanE
2:19 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Lori Mac - I am not in favor of anything being there. However, how would you feel if you purchased this property and it was zoned for commercial use (not saying this is the case, just assuming that it is), but then the zoning laws changed and you could no longer build on this plot of land?
MeanE
12:05 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
I agree with the majority that this is a bad proposal. However, if not a DD, then what should be at that location? Most are arguing about the fact that it is DD and that there are many alternatives in the vicinity, but what is the solution? Someone owns this property, is it already zoned for commercial? If it is, should they not be allowed to sell it, or develop it? What "fits" in that spot, that wouldn't affect the already traffic nightmare? If the answer is nothing, then how is the property owner compensated? Can it be zoned as residential? Is it appealing to a home owner? Will it be worth it to the property owner? IMO, it depends on what the land was zoned for when the current owner bought the property. There has to be some level of fairness to property/business owners in NK. You shouldn't change rules, including zoning, to accommodate special interests either way.
Just your ordinary NK resident
3:08 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Why don't they fix the traffic mess down the street at Jitters and Oak Hill Tavern, actually make an entrance and exit. right now it's a free for all! If their concerns where about traffic they would have addressed this issue before becasue as anyone who has travelled this road on a regular basis, with out curbing it is dangerous trying to enter onto RT 1 from Anaquatucket or Haverhill!
Lori Mac
12:43 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
We need this like we need a hole in the head (one we weren't born with).....bad, bad, idea!
Ken S
2:13 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Wickford is dying after Ryans left. Not sure this will help but they need something.
KRS
OrangesPoranges
11:17 am on Tuesday, November 27, 2012
What Wickford REALLY needs is to tie in to the sewer system and that would attract a few nice restaurants. Barring that, the town really needs to stop being so stubborn about the restroom requirement and give a business like Inside Scoop a variance so they can sell other types of food there and set up indoor tables, such as they do at their Cranston store.
Jeff Crawford
7:56 am on Tuesday, November 27, 2012
How about a Mary Lou's Coffee shop for the Wickford El property ?
parent of an 8th grader
10:12 am on Tuesday, November 27, 2012
why not a dd at the old school site down the street alittle, parents can get a coffee and the kids can go sledding in the winter and hit the library and playground in the summer
MeanE
2:37 pm on Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Robert and David Batista and Claudio and Theresa Amaral are the names on the application for zoning relief. It appears that these folks own DD franchises. So for them it is DD or bust. Should be interesting to see how it plays out.
William Gannon
5:01 pm on Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Hey People of North Kingstown,
If you are not happy with this proposal , Please get out and express you concerns.
I am not in favor of a Fast food establishment in Wickford. And yes the site is considered in Wickford. There are many factors why there sould be no dunk , and other shop on this corner. Safety sure is Number one.
Do we want to live in Anywhere USA or Do wish to live in NK USA?????
Please NK residents lets not chat on the computer about this issue GET OUT and Be Heard. 7:00 at the Senior Center ( moved from Town Hall )
Samantha Turner
5:19 pm on Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Hey William,
It's actually at Cold Spring Community Center, not Beechwood.
Catamount
9:07 pm on Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Having read all the emotional comments I to agree a DD is not the best use for this property. MeanE has viewed this logically. The property owners are seaking a dimensional variance. Surely they will show up with lawyers and a team of experts to testify how little impact the addition of a DD at this location will have on traffic and safety. Their experts will also testify the permitted use of the property allows for such a business to exist. The Zoning board will have to base their decision on the facts pertaining to the legal uses and zoning of the said land. True as citizens we can bann together to express our opinions against the application. However, they are still opinions. What it will take to win this is to present the Zoning board expert testimony contra to what the applicants will be trying to prove. Expert testimony gives the Zoning Board something to base a legal decision on and create their Finding of Facts. Bann together to hire experts which has more legal weight than residential opinion. Go get em!
Discouraged
12:32 am on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Yes! Yes! Yes!
In the interest of Fairness
6:35 am on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Seed and Soil. You are right on the money...and it's all about money.
The developers can afford lawyers and paid specialists. Most of the Town Council is corrupt. We need to organize. Norsewind, HIstwick and the neighborhood group that defeated the Dunkin Donuts last night (parents of middle-school kids/neighbors/business owners including Jitters/Honey Dew). Let's all join the Land Conservancy of NK. Is there a neighborhood organization in Saunderstown? Quonset?
Everyone should some to the meeting on Thursday night. When people show up they can't completely ignore us.
seed and soil
8:12 am on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
thanks @iiiof and orangesporanges! I don't know if LCNK is really the correct jumping off point?? But my thought of gathering these groups leaders and active membership together to form a storng community support structure seems a good one. @govstench, Ed Renehen, politcal sheriff - your Patch posts often lead me to believe that you have a very good understanding of the lay of the land. Is there already some group in place that concerned citizens could join to become more actively involved in the effort to see to it that preservation/conservation has a voice? It is clear that the community holds dear the charm, quality and characteristics of our coastal treasure. We want to do what we can to protect it from the misdirected over development and unwanted commercialization of new areas .If those of you who read these posts are interested, I am happy to book a room at the library for an initial meeting. I can reach out to the groups mentioned thus far and invite their leadership to attend! I recall there is also a group that used to serve in a some sort of advisory position....I think the NK Conservation Commission???? Does anyone out there know if they are still active...and if so, who is their chair?/active members??? Thanks folks!!!....LET"S DO THIS!!!
Debra Mullaney
12:40 pm on Friday, November 30, 2012
I hope this request is turned down as other people have said if you drive just a little further there are plenty of coffee shops nearby, or one could purchase
DD coffee at the market and make it yourself in a travel cup- it is cheaper, too! What an old fashioned concept, eh?