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School Committee Seeking to Solve Food Service Deficit

The school department is looking to solve the $150,000-a-year deficit from its cafeteria services.

 

 

The North Kingstown School Committee is looking to solve its perennial black hole – the food services budget. For several years running, the school district’s cafeteria service has run $150,000 in the red, causing the school committee to make up the shortfalls in other sectors of the budget.

“It’s time we fix it,” said School Committee Member John Boscardin. “We need to stop putting Band-Aids on it. Stop putting duct tape on it. Stop putting bubble gum on it. We need to make it work.”

North Kingstown is the only school department in Rhode Island that does its food services in-house. All others have outsourced their services or have used the state-run program.

Last year, the school department raised prices of school lunches and subsequently saw a drop in the number of students buying lunch.

"We're reached the point of diminishing return in terms of raises prices for school lunches," said Boscardin.

According to School Finance Director Mary King, Rhode Island Department of Education’s contract with its food service vendor expires next summer. In anticipation of that, the state is going out to bid to update the vendor and expects to have a decision made on the change in early March. King said that if North Kingstown went with the state-run program, it could provide an “umbrella” for the district that would still allow NK to customize menu and staffing requirements.

Committee Member Richard Welch stated he didn’t “have a lot of confidence in state-run programs,” citing the state’s “catastrophe” with its busing services.

“I think we can do a better job than the state will do for us, frankly,” said Welch.

King said the NK could also go out with its own RFP to seek vendors for its cafeteria services. If the committee chose to go down that route, King would need the green light by late January in order to post and get the RFP out to vendors.

Committee Member Larry Ceresi highlighted that the district’s food services weren’t more than just serving and preparing food. North Kingstown food services include a vocational program for students and also has a partnership with special education students. If the vendor changes, Ceresi hoped that the educational components could be worked into the contract. Welch also added that a stipulation that current employees would be offered positions first be added if a new vendor is chosen.

The committee voted to table the matter until its next meeting on Dec. 11 as the school department continues negotiations with the support professionals union (which includes cafeteria service workers). The union (NK Education Support Professionals) has been without a contract for almost two years as both sides failed to reach an agreement earlier this year. Tensions were augmented when the school committee voted to outsource custodial services over the summer. The two parties are scheduled for another contract negotiation meeting on Dec. 6.

Related Topics: NK ESP, North Kingstown School Committee, and North Kingstown school cafeteria services

melissa

8:06 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012

Better watch out they are going to treat the food service workers the same as they treated the 26 outsourced custodians. The food service workers need to prepare and save their pennies because the school commitee does not care about you.

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NK WATCH

10:34 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012

@melissa: it appears the SC IS caring about the people they are elected to care about, students and taxpayers........looks like they are trying to save the taxpayers money and at the same time NOT cut MORE from students to make up for the cafe shortfall. IF they can save 150K by providing the SAME services EVERY OTHER school district in the state is providing why not???????

melissa

8:08 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012

Who is next on the outsource list ??? paras ?? teachers??

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Jeff Crawford

8:26 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012

Well maybe if you take the proceeds from the sale of Wickford EL and forget the transformation of Davisville EL into the School Adminstrative Offices, you might have plenty of money to support the school district's cafeteria services and the quality of food you serve (because you, Richard, don't like the State Programs) might improve. It would seem that your over charging as it is, since four chicken nuggets or a slab of pizza and a milk are costing parents $2.50 per day.

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NK Parent

9:35 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012

If the ESP Union doesn't want to see more of it's public sector workers get outsourced maybe they should stop playing games (like the ill-advised "strike" earlier in the school year) and get serious about compromising on a contract with the school committee.

As it stands now, I say outsource the food service.

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melissa

8:52 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

SCHOOL COMMITTEE REFUSES TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH WITH THE NK ESP. WHEN ARE THOSE AT THE TOP GOING TO TAKE A HIT INSTEAD OF THOSE ON THE LOWER RUNGS. MY TAX BILL DID NOT GO DOWN AFTER THE CUSTODIANS WERE OUTSOURCED DID YOURS??

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NK Parent

11:23 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

Based on your response (all caps ... LOL) I can only assume the school committee has an uphill battle when dealing with the ESP Union. I hope the SC stands firm, and, if the election is any indication, things are only going to get tougher for the union.

What is your definition of "good faith"? The SC is not a corporation with unlimited funds. They need to cut until they meet their budget which is supplied by the TC. It's that simple. The unions had a good thing going for many years. Sadly (for them) it's going to be coming to an end over the coming years.

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MeanE

12:01 pm on Friday, November 30, 2012

NK Parent - To be fair, I think there is enough blame to go around on both sides of this discussion. The SC & Super have not been demeanor saints either. Labor discussions are rarely civil and rarely is only one side to "blame". It is unfortunate that the rhetoric became so heated by all parties involved. It seems that it has died down some, and hopefully cooler heads on both sides will prevail and a fair contract will be signed next month. What each of us concludes as fair is another story, but lets not act like the ESP is the only one to blame in this mess. I can see blame with the TC, the SC, the ESP union, and maybe most of all the timing of the contract ending with the need to make cuts in the budget.

Valerie Cookson-Botto

9:43 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012

The lunch tray in this picture is not the tray our school children eat from. Every day they are served on Styrofoam trays, which are then tossed. This is a costly cycle of trays being purchased, used once and then hauled to the landfill. Reusable trays in the long run are healthier for our kids, our school budget and our landfill. Can we get rid of the Styrofoam trays?

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john boscardin

11:25 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012

I am told that styrofoam trays were chosen because they are significantly cheaper(up to 3.5 times less expensive) than paper/cardboard trays.
Plastic trays are not used because they require heavy duty dishwashers to clean and sterilize and we do not have this equipment. These commercial dishwashers use countless gallons of water and energy to do their job. Additionally these trays tend to "disappear" ending up in the trash along with the other garbage.

Thedoors5to1

9:58 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012

maybe they should stop feeding the kids the same unhealthy crap, the portions get smaller and prices get higher. Those meals never filled anyone i knew

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john boscardin

12:30 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

New federal regulations are resulting in smaller servings in school cafeterias. Under the new guidelines children in kindergarten through fifth grade are served no more than 650 calories, middle school students are allowed 700 calories, and high school lunches are allotted no more than 850. calories.http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/local_news/providence/restrictions-on-school-lunch-portions

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MeanE

9:01 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

John - Thanks for chiming in regarding the serving sizes. One might argue however that 650- 850 calories of healthy whole foods doesn't necessarily mean smaller servings. http://www.diet-blog.com/07/what_do_300_calorie_meals_look_like.php If the schools are still serving processed foods like chicken nuggets, pizza, and the like, then I can see why servings sizes are smaller.

Do you have any insight on why the schools are using styrofoam trays? Seems kind of archaic in 2012.

Pam

11:21 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012

It's puzzling to me why, in an era where we're requiring families to raise money so their kids can play some sports, we continue to be the only district to subsidize the food program. If 30 other districts are proving it can be done more cheaply with relatively decent quality, why are we clinging to the idea of our own, more expensive program? It's not like kids are raving about the quality of the food; at least they're not showing up at meetings to rave. When the price went up, apparently fewer meals were sold. Of course it also puzzles me why a town where the criminal action of the week can be "Lost Wallet Found" pays for 70 cops. If we continue to support sacred cows instead of looking at what we really need, we taxpayers will continue to pay 3 times as much in taxes as Jamestown and twice as much as Narragansett.

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Mark Williams

12:23 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012

Whoever cooks and serves the food in the NKSD, I hope the school committee continues to allow special needs students to intern in the kitchen. The payoff in money alone for our society if just one trained special needs person gets employed in the food service industry for life is tremendous. Instead of receiving $1000 per month SSI disability money, which would amount to over $300,000 over 30 years, if that person worked for minimum wage in the food service business they would pay taxes on the exact same amount and save us taxpayers money. Sometimes the benefits financially are not always apparent unless you have all the facts and think it through. Currently the workers in the school kitchen provide one of the few vocational training opportunities for special needs students at the high school and if that opportunity is lost with an out-sourced contract then I can assure you're going to hear about it from me, a taxpayer, parent, and teacher.

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melissa

8:48 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

Are these workers certified to TEACH special needs, or like the custodians just given a problem child to deal with

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MeanE

9:06 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

Melissa - not sure calling special needs children a "problem child" helps your argument.

Ed Renehan

2:56 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012

The privatizing of food services is ridiculously overdue. There is simply not the money to continue as we've been doing. As for the School Committee caring - their job is to care about the quality of EDUCATION offered our students, and every available dollar should be allocated in that direction of the classroom. The SC's obligation is to students rather than to cafeteria workers (or, for that matter, custodians). We cannot afford to continue to operate food services at a loss when this is not in the least necessary, given privatization and/or state options.

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MeanE

3:59 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012

Read between the lines people. The answer to why food services has not been outsourced lies within this article. SC members have their own private agendas. Figure it out. Once the SC finds a way to keep the vocational program without the current cafeteria workers being involved, rest assured they will be gone, just like the janitors. Part-Time employees, had full health insurance benefits for years, are operating at a loss, and every other district outsources. Now you tell me why they still have jobs and the janitors don't?

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Politics Sheriff of NK

10:24 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012

How is inclusion of making food for some special students a "private agenda". It just seems like this SC cant please ANYONE, be it the ones who want to outsource like every other district has, or the ones who want to keep losing $150 thousand dollars a year to keep a few union employees getting paid. Wow! I'd love to see these people pay way more to have anything done on their houses or get their car fixed only by union workers! It would not happen.

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Dave

7:14 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

There's no secret why the SC has thus far resisted outsourcing food service. They've said repeatedly over the past 2 years at meetings that they were giving the head of food services, who had on her own initiative come up with several innovative ways of savings money and raising revenues for the program, an opportunity to make that work. It has not produced the savings they had hoped, therefore they're moving forward with outsourcing. Besides they saved far more money outsourcing janitorial than they would have saved if they outsourced foodservice first. When they do outsource it, they said on Tuesday night that they will keep the special needs intern program intact and will mandate that the new company keep the current employees. The conspiracy talk is hogwash.

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MeanE

9:21 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

Dave - why now is the argument that outsourcing janitorial saved more money then outsourcing food service? It's about ALL the kids right? If that's the case then why were other programs cut that directly affected the students, before the outsourcing of food services? It shouldn't matter which outsourcing saved more money then should it? I don't think that anyone claimed a conspiracy, but if you want to believe that there are no biases on the SC, that's your choice. I choose to believe that the SC members are human and have built in biases just as you and I also have. I didn't say it was a bad thing necessarily, only that I believe that private agendas/biases exist in this case.

melissa

7:52 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

Like with the custodians at a pay cut, with loss of sick time, vacation time, and no job security.

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Dave

9:42 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

Oh Please Meane, we all know what you meant, it's your usual pattern of making personal comments. First, the SC can't outsource anything that they haven't first bargained and negotiated. So if they didn't bargain that yet, then they can't do it yet. Although I have no idea if that played into their decision, it's something that might have. Further I heard the entire SC say years ago that food service would probably be the last thing they would outsource, as they felt serving food in house was more important to them than keeping other functions in house. Guess what, that's their call, that's why they are elected officials, they get to make those decisions. You would rather believe some conspiracy and make some personal attacks as usual, rather then believe that amount of money saved may have influenced the order of things, (a very common sense consideration it seems to me). Anyway, does it really matter if one is done 6 months prior to the other? Any excuse to make a thinly veiled attack that doesn't even make sense.

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MeanE

10:21 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

"I have no idea if that played into their decision" - If you have no idea what played into their decision, then why are biases considered conspiracy and personal attacks? Why is serving food in house more important? You haven't given me a reason as to why? My opinion is that there are biases on the SC and that is why other cuts were made that had a larger impact on ALL students before food services were cut. Richard Welch is quoted on here as questioning food services years ago. I just don't see consistency in the decisions made by the SC. My conclusion in regards to what I see as inconsistencies is that their bias based. Again, not claiming that this practice is wrong or right. I have my own biases as do you. Simply stating how I feel, not attacking anyone or creating a conspiracy. It's an opinion, ever heard of one before? It's OK, you don't agree with my opinion, I get it. Do you want my opinion to change to yours?

Jeff Crawford

9:49 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

Has anyone concluded as to why there is a reduction in children purchasing lunch? Is it a question of the quality of the food, quantity of the food, cost of the food or just having to pay people to prepare and distribute the food? My understanding is that lunches at the high school cost between $2.50 and $5.00 per person and depending on what you purchase and the selection is quite nutritional, cold lunch vs. hot lunch. As for the lower grades, chicken nuggets, maccaroni, pizza and cheese burgers are a regular staple. There must be a solution, rather than out sourcing. There seems to be a regular pattern developing, taxes continue to go up and the services provided continue to go down. What's next, snow plowing every other storm ? Thanks for the big blue bin.

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Richard Welch

10:04 am on Friday, November 30, 2012

Jeff thanks for your comment. I can assure you that this subject has been seriously looked into over the past four years. When I first got on the S/C I questioned why the benefits cost more than the wages in this area and it was because the workers received full benefits while working part time. When deciding which items in teh budget could be trimed we need to first look at non-ed items. With every other district using private vendors for food successfully and we are running a deficit yr after yr we needed to make the change. Also please understand that every household in N K is paying to subsidize this program because of this deficit. If it paid its way this would not be on the agenda.

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