413-Foot Wind Turbine to Be Completed Next Week
A controversial, 413-foot wind turbine is near completion.
The newest addition to the North Kingstown skyline will be completed by the middle of next week. According to Mark DePasquale of Wind Energy Development LLC, construction will finish on a 413-foot wind turbine in his backyard in North Kingstown Green off Ten Rod Road by Wednesday. The tower and nacelle (with a height of about 262 feet) of the wind turbine are already erected, but the turbine’s 134-foot-long blades will be added to the structure in the coming days.
The 413-foot, 1.5 megawatt Goldwind turbine will be the first turbine lined up for installation by developer Wind Energy Development LLC, based in North Kingstown.
According to DePasquale, upwards of 134 workers have helped with the construction of the wind turbine. The workers (all certified union members) have been trained in wind turbine installation, said DePasquale.
The turbine – which was originally slated to be 427 feet tall – is identical to the trio of 365-feet tall turbines in Providence – operated by the Narragansett Bay Commission – said DePasquale. (The Providence turbines were modified to be shorter in order to align with FAA regulations, said DePasquale. All four turbines are all manufactured by Goldwind.)
Though the turbine will be completed next week, DePasquale says the turbine won’t be commissioned until early December when it will become fully operational.
The wind turbine will be located in North Kingstown Green, a subdivision owned by DePasquale, right in DePasquale’s backyard. Residents of the subdivision will receive monthly payments of $150 to go toward electricity bills because of the turbine.
“We normally lease the land where these turbines are located,” said DePasquale. “With North Kingstown Green, we’re splitting that would-be lease payment with the homeowners in the neighborhood.”
The turbine, which will be one of the tallest structures in the state in about a week, has attracted a lot of attention and curiosity from those in the area. DePasquale welcomes the attention, but urges onlookers to be mindful of residents in the neighborhood – especially children in the area.
“I support people who want to drive through and take a look,” said DePasquale. “I just want them to be careful and drive slow because we have children in the neighborhood.”
DePasquale is asking motorists to drive slowly and to follow Rodman Lane to view the turbine from the cul de sac at the end of the subdivision rather than driving through Thornton Way.
NK WATCH
7:38 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
As i drive down Rt. 102 towards beautiful and historic Wickford Village and see this monstrosity hovering overhead in the skyline I will forever remember the current town manager and town council for what they've done to this town. We wouldn't let Home Depot put a sign up in the parking lot that could be seen from the highway because we wanted to preserve the Rural historic character of the town but yet they allow this? When voters drive by this eyesore it should be a reminder to them to vote out Bestwick, Dolan and Houston
Dave
8:39 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
EXCELLENT post and excellent point NK Watch! The Home Depo sign was too obtrusive for this town, what a joke. This entire TC has to go.
Stanley Spink
9:59 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
I think large windmills are beautiful to look at. They are graceful and sleek. Noise? I can't wait for this one to get running so I can listen and find out if it does make objectionable noises. Shadows? Since we are in the northern hemisphere the shadows will fall to the North of the tower, I didn't see any homes there.
Noreswindnk
10:44 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Stanley, a little geography issue. The shadows will actually be greatest to the west (east sunrise) and east (west sunset) when the sun is at it's lowest and the shadows from 400 feet up cast their longest.
Maurice cusick
8:00 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Yes, this is going to be a terrible eyesore. And the one in Portsmouth is broken, with no one wanting to foot the $600 000 repair bill. I was driving through Lovely Jamestown yesterday. They are ruing that section of 138 with signs. How many are there now? Approximately 85, many are duplicates. Most useless. In 1975 there were about 10 signs. Mom still found Newport alright.
jeff barry
8:38 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Maurice you were at potowamut CC golfing & you live in EG so what is your Guff ?
ANGEL FISH
8:09 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
I think the wind turbines are kind of peaceful looking. I don't mind them terribly. But it will be lousy if one breaks down and it's sitting there doing nothing like the one in Portsmouth. That will be very frustrating.
Noreswindnk
8:31 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Yes, "frustrating"...........that's the word I was thinking.......frustrating.
Scott Madison
11:41 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Yeah, Angel...I could see how coming home to one of these down the street from my home could be frustrating when you can't sleep at night, losing your property value, and having 3 shadows per second coming through your windows.....please take a moment and look at these videos, would you also also find this frustrating?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCyQD83NLDc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5KvJjI21i0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL-cRuYAxg0
NK Parent
1:49 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Good thing we don't ever get high winds like those shown in your videos here in RI! ;)
Scott Madison
3:22 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Exactly NK Parent.... Good thing we don't get hurricanes, nor'easters or high winds here in Rhode Island. :P Also, I am sure the TC/PC & developer made sure that if there was an accident such as an implosion, collapse, blade loss, ice throw, or a fire like in the videos that there is more than enough distance between this turbine and any homeowners that might be affected. I am also re-assured the town has an emergency plan in place if there ever was a disaster or fire at the turbine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH-2m4A_6NQ
I also have a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you for a very good price.... :P
Little Rhody
8:24 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Angel Fish, peaceful looking!!!! I don't think that you would feel that way if it were in your neighborhood, listening to the noise it makes and the flickering it causes. You should have attended some of the meeting to find out how really dangerous this "peaceful" turbine is.
As for Dolan, Bestwick and Houston vote them out they really do not respresent the true people of North Kingstown
Anonymous
12:25 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
Do you really live in the neighborhood, because I live extremely close to the NK Wind Turbine, much closer than many. And if you really knew about this new wind turbine you would know that the flicker goes nowhere near the neighborhood, and the turbine was specially fitted to the area. Why don't you like it? Is it because it's new? Or is it because most of the lies put out about it? This is a new beginning, at least give it a try.
Noreswindnk
8:29 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
I'm not going negative on this nearly finished structure now blessing our town's landscape.
I'm not going to mention the now shut down Portsmouth turbine or the Falmouth, MA residents continuing health complaints.
Instead, I'm going to take the economic road. $150/mo or $1,800/year? You're kidding, right? Let's see, how to spend such a windfall?
*earplugs for increased noise from 134 foot fan blades flopping in the air?
*new thick shades for shadows (flicker) from 134 foot fan blades flopping in the sun?
*triple pane windows (closed all the time) for "insulation" R-value?
*doctors bills for unheard but felt within our bodies, low decibel "sound" waves from stress movements (blade-to-pole-to-foundation) eminating great distances from the turbine base?
*new roofing and helmets for the kids for potential ice "balls" hitting roofs (or other places)?
*birdfood as you'll expect less ground wildlife sightings (from vibration) and maybe a trash can for hawk or bat carcass picked off the lawn once in a while?
*fencing to keep pets off your "quiet" neighborhood streets while gawkers drive thru with eyes up 400'?
*a new RE agent to show the multiplicity of new potential customers waiting to buy homes within several hundred feet of your community's new lawn ornament.
$150/mo. Wow, what a magnanimous developer!
God's speed my friends
NoResWindNK.com..........is sad today
John Eastman
8:37 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
When are we going to learn that you can't go home again? "Change is inevitable - except from vending machines".
Noreswindnk
8:41 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Appropriate thought: "you can't go home again". Wonder how many will say those exact words.
ANGEL FISH
8:43 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
The wind turbine is a mile from my home. I'm not immune.
Govstench
8:49 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
The windmill issue is one that this town council really punted on. For that, all of those who voted to allow this should be kicked off the council. At best, these machines are only 35% efficient! As for Mr. DePasquales claims of the Providence wind turbines, none of them have produced 1 watt of energy. The project is incomplete. It should also be noted that another turbine manufacturer, Vestas is close to bankruptcy. The manufacturer of the Portsmouth wind turbine is also bankrupt. These green energy projects are turning out to be a big bust. The taxpayers are really getting hosed on these ventures.
I took a ride through that neighborhood yesterday when I saw this monstrosity sticking up in the air. If you think this looks bad now, wait until those blades go up. I feel for those property owners living in that development. If the housing prices haven't fallen enough already, this machine will really impact those values. The town council should pass an ordinance to give a tax-exemption to these property owners due to their incompetence in handling this issue. Local government really hurt these property owners!
Noreswindnk
9:33 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
All true, 100%. But let's keep the blame where it belongs if we can (though there's plenty to share).
Yes, the PC and TC both fumbled the ball, but were likely deceived by claims and "expert testimony" with nobody on the other side (that's us) fighting against it.
The scoundrel in this show is the developer. He sued the town twice and the residents of his OWN NEIGHBORHOOD for $25 million. My God!!! Who does that???
Mike
11:06 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
For the last 5 years the actual capacity factor for all windmills has been 27.1%. The location of the Village Green turbine appears to be sub-standard, and the height inadequate to foster maximum potential production. Only time will tell, of course, but it sure seems like it won't even hit 27%. But at that rate, it's 3.6 million KWH per year. And the long-term contract rate is about 13.4 cents per KWH. So that is about $480,000 a year minus the payments to the VG home owners, cost of money to purchase and install the turbine, maintenance, insurance, etc.
Frank Castellone
8:58 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Congrats. to all the home owners who live at the Green. Enjoy your green energy and your monthly $150.00 "kickback". Oh did I forget to mention the depreciation on your lovely homes, and noise factor... swish swish, swish... Oh I'm getting nausea and ready to throw up.... but hey it sure "looks nice"....Happy 360 degrees. (LOL)
Georgia
1:21 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Agreed, Frank! I had commented, but completely forgot to mention the the depreciation of home values where these monstrous things are place!
seed and soil
9:07 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
I've never taken issue with the visual, but as with all things it is about appropriate venue. Popping in one here and one there throughout residential neighborhoods was never the intended implementation of these clean and green energy producers. As "wind-farms", the best use is just that, either off shore, or in far more isolated rural areas placed together in large numbers to make effective use of favorable wind patterns......aka FARMS of towers "planted" together in one spot in large numbers. Sadly, some saw the loop holes made available by the rate purchasing incentives. If the gov't creates an opportunity to make a quick buck, there is always someone who will take it. IMO residential area implementation was never the intent of what is a wonderful alternative and clean energy source. Just as a field of wildflowers in a sweeping meadow are beautiful to behold, so too wind-farms. But imo, dandelions sprinkled here and there, tend to spoil the lawn. With property values, the debate over noise and flicker, etc seems advisable to stick to "farm" type implementation.
MeanE
9:26 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
seed - absolutely the best post I have seen regarding this issue! I totally agree with your perspective and analogies. Nicely done.
Frank Castellone
9:31 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
To Govstench. Pass a tax -exemtion for those property owners... you have to be kidding. Did you attend any of the TC meetings regarding Wind Turbines? Large numbers of NK residence continued to voice their opposition to Wind Turbines in residential areas. Many Green home owners supported DePasquale's plan and those in opposition never stepped up to the plate to oppose it. Correction...some did when it was to late. It was greed my friend... good old fashion greed...Here is the hook, I'll pay you $150.00 per month toward your electric bill if you sign right here.... while I'll make millions. DePasquale can walk away from his home with the profit he will make erecting "The Beast". Please wake up.
Govstench
5:58 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
@Frank: I was advised that these property owners did sign off on that windmill being put up. I did attend a couple of those meetings but was not aware of the sign off. That would indeed change their plight. If they are happy with their windturbine, then live with it. Let them live with their devalued properties. I do agree with seed & soil about locations - these belong in the mountains or very rural areas away from populated areas. At best, these machines are only 35% efficient and are prone to maintenance issues. I wonder if DePasquale is going to climb that tower to perform the maintenance, yeah right. There was discussion in the design plans of these towers to install elevators but that fell under the preventative maintenance section which was quickly discarded.
Govstench
6:00 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
One other point on locations; they are being installed atop hydroelectric dams. Again, I know the hydro-electric would win out on the efficiency side!
Mike
10:35 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
What a WONDERFUL reminder right before election time as to who is responsible for this mess. Time for the current Town Council to go. They foolishly allowed this to move forward without doing adequate due-diligence.
I would feel sorry for the Village Green owners except they were also blinded by "green" (either money or energy) and agreed to something without understanding it. Now that turbine sits closer to their homes than even the ridiculously lenient future state guideline allows. If anything goes wrong, I can't imagine the legal costs to the town for failing to protect the public, especially since they were made aware of the potential issues and had an opportunity to stop the process. Plus many hundreds of home owners near the turbine can now start demanding reductions in their appraised home values (the reductions in value being offered to European homeowners as compensation for the risk and nuisance are astounding).
So do remember this at election time -- time for the existing Town Council to go!
Scott Madison
11:44 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Exactly......very well stated. Perfect reminder as people drive to the polls....
Green=Greed, not saving Mother Earth (especially when coming from a politician or developer)
NK
11:30 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
I just looked at the picture attached to this article. Although I am 100% in favor of clean, renewable energy, there is certainly locations these machines should not be placed. You buy a house in a residential neighborhood because of the house, and whats around it... and then some politicians (the people elected to office to uphold residents concerns) get involved and totally flip your "sanctuary" or "place of refuge" upside down. I personally want to SHAME Mr Bestwick, Mrs. Dolan, and Mrs. Hugeston for their blatant lack of responsibility in this matter. (along with other issues these usless humans have done). Why did these people run for office? Why are they re-running for office? It's obviously not because they are concerned with North Kingstown. It's all about personal agendas, power trips, personal financial gains, and cronyism. I hope the sun will shine again some day in North Kingstown, but it will not happen if these defunct creatures are elected back into office.
Scott Madison
11:54 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
I wonder how this happened?
http://avoiceinamerica.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/money_changing_hands.jpg
November 6th is Election Day......
Carol Vieira
12:21 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Very much appreciate everyone's curiosity about this curiosity, but also appreciate respectful drivers who go slowly and are mindful of small children who often play outdoors in the circle. Thanks, from a NK Green Neighbor!
NK Voter
12:52 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
The manufacturer setback recommendations were ignored.
These large industrial turbines were never meant for residential areas.
Re: light flicker: the wind doesn't blow in one direction. The blades can/will turn to adjust for wind direction and speed.
The fact that the developer is marketing this subdivision as
"Green" is laughable. If one was truly interested in being "green", them you wouldn't cause a large carbon footprint building a new home, roads, infrastructure, etc. then put up an industrial turbine and call yourself "green".
Lastly, these turbines aren't run by gentle breezes and fairy dust. They have powerful magnets in the motors to allow them to move. Do a quick Internet search to see how the precious metals needed for the magnets are mined in parts of China. Hardly "green "
Lets stop being brainwashed.
Georgia
1:18 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Thank God we were able to stop this happening at Stamp Farm! And it wasn't easy. We didn't want accidents on So. County Trail from the looky-loos, the ice throw, the shadow-flicker(especially for those people with migraine, espilepsy and other neurological problems), the constant low-level hum that makes people and animals sick, the killing of birds and bats. All you have to do is ask people who have had to live with that for some time to get a good idea of how miserable it is to live with one of these things in a residential area:(
Scott Madison
10:40 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
Completely agree!!
Edris Crockford
3:32 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
My husband & I were active when the turbine issue was being decided & I seem to recall that the builder had received certification for the base only for the turbine at NK Green.His attorney even argued at a Zoning Board meeting to that effect.Did I miss something?Did he receive a further certification for the turbine itself?I would really appreciate answers from members of the Planning Commission,Town Council, Town Mgr. & Town Planner!
Scott Madison
11:07 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
Excellent questions that deserve answers and accountability.
Straight Talker
8:32 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012
I would also like to hear an explanation from the town. At all the meetings regarding this turbine we were assured that the building permit was only for the foundation. The value on the building permit was only $1 million. That is not enough for a full turbine. As the developer pays a percentage of the value to get his permit, was he in fact cheating the residents of this town by undervalueing the project???????
Dave
9:07 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
I for one, do not blame the developer as the main culprit in this. The developer is not an elected official and owes nothing to the citizens of Nk. The tc are the ones who owe a duty to the citizens and the have failed. Miserably.
Govstench
9:32 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
One other point which is unrelated to this machine is that the Town of Bristol pulled out of the EBEC agreement on October 10th. Setting aside all of the problems with the EDC, the 38 studios fiasco and having government intervention in the renewable energy market, what is going to make it very tough for these machines to be profitable is the continued drop in natural gas prices. The bulk of electrical energy generation is done by natural gas in RI. Your rates have been gong down due to that fuel! As more gas pools are found, this decline should continue. Good luck with this developer with his wind turbine - he has his contract but the next one may not be as attractive.
Martin
7:02 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
With backward phobic attitudes like the ones exhibited here, progress will be painfully slow in this town. Most parts of the world are far ahead of us in adopting renewable energy sources. It is time to open your eyes and embrace the few ways we have available to meet our energy needs without resorting to such oxymoronic concepts as "clean coal"
Noreswindnk
7:57 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
With due respect to your opinion, you may have missed one point. NOT ONE of the people objecting is objecting to either renewable energy or forward thinking energy policy. Simply, you don't put necessary coal plants in the middle of cities, do you? We all need vehicles to drive, yet placing a smelly oil plant in the center of Providence or Boston would be met with disdain. How about placing our new town "dump" (call it waste facility if you'd like) in downtown Wickford? It's closer to the use there so why transport all the way to Davisville? Are we waste phobic if we object?
No one here is new energy "phobic" and your own backward attitude toward the possibility that we can produce coal in new ways without polluting our own environment shows you only believe in some new energy methods, but not all. Look, I'm not an energy engineer, but with oil over $100/barrel and gas around $4 people want to see all things considered.........but also PROPERLY SITED.
Georgia
10:03 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
Clean coal isn't an oxymoronic concept at all. It can be done and it should be done.
Scott Madison
10:49 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
Not to derail the conversation about this 413 foot eyesore and further example of bad local government, but just be aware "clean coal" is a concept, not a reality.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-biggers/clean-coal-obama_b_1975481.html
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1870599,00.html
However, Martin I appreciate your passion, but 1 heavily subsidized 400 foot industrial wind turbine within a couple of hundred feet of residential homes just does not make economic or logical sense. The power it will supposedly produce (at 30% efficiency) will equal a grain of sand, not even making a small dent in the electrical grid. If the developer wanted to put 5 up in the Quonset Industrial Business Park, I might have considered it, but not within a couple hundred feet of families.
This is not an example of moving forward towards energy independence (promised by every President since the Carter administration), this is an example of very poor local government and greed by a developer.
Mike
3:09 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
Quite the opposite, Martin -- North Kingstown attempted to get ahead of the curve and has become the Poster Child for how NOT to do something. In fact other communities appeared to be horrified at what has happened in NK, and have derailed wind projects in their community.
Ask yourself, has this project furthered the cause of renewable energy, or done state-wide harm? As you consider that, consider that there is a proposal for a 2.5 MW Turbine in Coventry -- people aren't protesting that because it is being built in a wide-open spaces without residential homes a few hundred feet away.
Renewable energy has its place like other forms of energy. However given the state of the technology today, including safety and noise issues, putting it in the middle of a residential community is probably not an example of world-class placement. Turbines simply belong in open spaces. Sadly, Rhode Island, being so densely populated doesn't have many open spaces. But a lack of open space shouldn't justify poor siting.
Frankly if you want to make a real impact, then encourage conservation. That is known to be the best return on dollar investment of any energy "technology" That way you reduce the carbon from current supply and don't have to build a large windmill against local opposition.
NK Parent
9:13 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
Simple question: Who on the current town council voted "YES" for this thing?
I drove by the new turbine yesterday and it's a lot bigger than I ever imagined it would look. I'm all for wind energy but putting this right in the middle of residential NK was a HUGE mistake.
Dave
9:38 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
Dolan, Hueston and Bestwick all voted for it. Vote them out.
Georgia
10:04 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
Well said, Noreswindnk:)
Frank Castellone
10:55 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
Noressindnk you are right on the money. However I do like Martin's comment. I heard a rumor that Mr. DePasquale bought the house next door to Martin and will be erecting the same "beast" on that property as well. Wake up Martin. (LOL).
Frank Castellone
11:00 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
Mark. Please do not take offense but what did you think this Wind Turbine was going to look like. Had you been involved you would have known. Please get involved by voting in this election.
Mike
3:24 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
Mark, the utilities are required by LAW to accept all the energy that can be produced by a Wind Mill. They don't turn them off. Mother nature turns them off when there is no wind (or too much wind or ice). The reality is that turbines only turn 27% of the time (average over the past five years). That has to do with the variable nature of wind. Sadly, when it is needed most, hot days with no breeze, is when turbines produce nothing. Their output cycle is often poorly matched to actual peak demand.
Noreswindnk
11:38 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
Dave, only one comment, aside from which we agree completely. You say you don't blame the developer but blame the elected officials. If I may....
It's about time the country/world took PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their actions. No, we can't vote for the developer, understood, however HE is the litigious Son of a Gun (I'm afraid he'll sue me) who sued the town twice and his neighbors for $25 MILLION BUCKS. He scared everyone for his greed. This isn't about the TC, PC or elected/unelected UNPAID volunteers, it's all about him and his greed period. He knows what he's doing and why. He doesn't give a lick about the town, you or the people, it's dollars b...a...b...y!!!!
You put any five hamburgers into the five TC seats and have a developer present them with 27 neighbor signatures saying "I want this in my backyard" along with NOBODY from the public dissenting, and what answer would those five burgers give? They were deceived!!!! We all were deceived and folks like Martin still are being decieved. Call a spade a space, yes vote for what you want changed, but in the wild west they wouldn't run the sherrif out of town, they'd run the problem out.
Dave
11:47 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
Noreswind, you will never get the government you desire. Giving the tc a pass and stating that there was " no dissent" is naive and inaccurate. They were deceived?? You've got to be kidding! The same people have been making the same poor decisions for years...see the pattern?
Noreswindnk
12:01 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
Dave, No passes given. No chance of that. We agree as I said. TC screwed up, given, correct, move 'em out. Done, fine. I'm past that. It's the core issue I'm on to. Morality, ethics, sense of right, community, personal adherence to unwritten rules (even when you can get away with something). That's what this is about. Teach our kids what's right and what's wrong about people and our society. What's this been?
Lawsuits, six different lawyers including a town judge, gov't freebies, electricity overcharges for residents, kickbacks, need I continue? Change your elected sitting volunteers on council, fine. But spend just a little time trying to change the root problem too. We have found the culprit and he is us.
RI NK Independent
12:12 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
The hypocrisy here is amazing. Everyone in this ridiculously liberal state is all for environmentalism and renewable energy, as long as they don't have to see it or hear it in their town. You can't have it all ways. Either you deal with renewable energy, or deal with fracking for gas and imported oil from the Middle East and the tar sands in Canada. The amount of NIMBYism in this town is absolutely nauseating. Where do you think much of the power you use now comes from? Nuke plants. Yeah for renewable energy at wind farms out in the midwest, as long as no liberal in RI or MA has to see it.
Mike
3:18 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
Folks, you can check on-line to see where RI's energy is generated (98% from gas), and what the mix is for all the energy it imports. In the New England Pool, the VAST majority comes from gas. Some comes from renewable like Hydro Canada. Very little comes from nuclear. Even less comes from coal.
Electricity in this region has NOTHING to do with oil from the Middle East, or tar sands from Canada.
Noreswindnk
3:35 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
RI NK Ind, ummm, isn't opposition to wind a conservative rather than a liberal bent as proven by the President (for) on down to our ultra-conservative congressional republican rep (Costa) opposing? NK representative Ehrhardt (R), a member of the PUC steering committee also opposed.
Otherwise, not sure I understand the benefit of calling the bulk of your neighbors names like hipocrite, liberal, gumby, dumby, or nimby. Again, personal responsibilty. Calling people names just isn't nice.
Chris Prata
1:55 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
Have to set the record straight. THERE IS NO "CLEAN COAL"! That term came from a fabrication of a potential idea that is unworkable, whereby the smokestack emissions are forced underground and compressed into hot liquid carbon dioxide, which will leak out slowly over a couple hundred years. It was never accomplished. Other than that, some gains have been made to reduce fly ash, but not carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide levels are soaring in our atmosphere AND ocean waters which creates an acid layer on top of the ocean which kills plankton and breaks down the food chain. So even without final proof that there is a greenhouse effect, carbon is damaging oceans badly. Coal plant waste is also highly radioactive due to the uranium present in coal. http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/31/us/georgia-coal-power/index.html
Chris Prata
1:56 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
So, is wind the answer? NOPE. Govetench has it exactly right, not enough efficiency for the cost of materials needed for the windmills. The electricity is much more costly under the best scenario. It will get worse as more of these break down and they will. The price will settle out at a high level per watt.
What DOES work (and is NOT being embraced by green Obama). Geothermal. I visited an open house with geothermal groundwater heating and cooling and it was great, and MUCH cheaper than the oil heat it replaced and now they have central air too. It is available to most houses and buildings in America and produces only the pollution needed for the small amount of electricity required to run the heat exchanger. Combine that with stringent insulation and weatherization building codes and we would be free of much of the problem. Why is this existing option not embraced in policy? Because it is decentralized and not controlled by large players (who have lobbyists). Add a couple vac-tube solar panels for hot water, and you will recoup these costs per building in only a couple years then save money and the environment (for real) for years to come.
Politics Sheriff of NK
8:45 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
genius!
Scott Madison
2:47 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
The comments are starting to get into a bunch of different "green" and political issues that can go worthlessly back and forth, some points more valid than others.
However, at the end of the day I would hope a vast majority of readers here would at least agree that a 413 foot industrial wind turbine DOES NOT belong in a residential neighborhood within a couple hundred feet of families.
Midlife Momma
9:02 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012
Exactly, Scott! Most people would agree that wind energy is a good thing. NOT in a residential neighborhood!! Posters on this string who think this gigantic eye-sore is a good thing: Do you live in that neighborhood??!! Dolan, Hueston and Bestwick sure dont......
Scott Madison
9:30 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012
Hi Midlife,
No I do not live in that neighborhood, but your right Dolan, Hueston and Bestwick sure don't. I hope the NK residents that see this monstrosity understand this is what happens when politicians are in the pockets of developers. Dolan, Hueston and Bestwick should be voted out and Independents without any developer ties (like Hawkins) should be voted in.
Govstench
3:14 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
@ Mark Henricks - you are partially right on the electrical generation to Rhode Island. The nearest plant is at Brayton Point, Somerset, Ma. However, that plant along with the facility in Providence, Johnston, Burrillville and Tiverton are all natural gas. Brayton has the ability to switch fuels depending on the costs. With the vast pools of natural gas being discovered in this country and the pipelines going to Canada and down south, the regulators figured the best fit was for natural gas. This game plan which was put into play in the mid 1990's reflected the best stable price from gas to coal. Oil has been such a unstable commodity and is not cost effective to ship through transmission lines.
I personally have no axe to grind against renewable energy as long as it is cost effective. The contracts that are underway for Deep Water Wind puts that cost at 24.5 cents/kWh. If you look at your domestic A-10 rate for electric, you will find it around 12 cents and falling. The advantage the North Kingstown turbine has over Deep Water Wind is it is easier to service rather than having to dispatch ships to those sites off Block Island. The biggest issue with wind turbines is finding reliable service engineers to work on them and keeping that maintenance on schedule, otherwise you end up with the Portsmouth mess.
Greenwashed
6:42 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
Poor planning, period. How did the Planning Board/ Planner allow an industrial power plant in a residenital area?? Crazy - my guess is someone fell in love with the idea of "green" energy, blinded by the light!
Politics Sheriff of NK
7:36 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
they "fell in love with the green". you got it.
Frank Castellone
10:23 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012
STOP STOP EVERYBODY.... I was just traveling down Rt. 4 South and noticed a bright "RED" blinking light that was never there before. At first I asked my Iphone the date... thinking it may be Christmas Eve and Rudolph was helping Santa... No; maybe an aircraft making an emergency landing.... No; maybe a UFO... but to my amazement it was "the Beast". Hey Mr. DePasquale... you never mentioned a red blinking light your $150.00 a month neighbors have to tolerate from sunset to sunrise 365 days a year.... or maybe you did. There is however a "bright" side to the story; They will never get lost trying to find their way home at night, just follow the RED BLINKING LIGHT. (LOL)
Greenwashed
9:30 am on Sunday, October 21, 2012
Good news for Santa!!! He can implement much needed cost cutting measures and lay off Rudolph; no need for that shiny red nose; at least in Rhody LOL!!
I still cant get over the poor planning - what is next for the NK Planners/Council or whomever approved this project - a sewer treatment plant next to the reservoir?
KSeaSea
12:48 am on Monday, October 22, 2012
Just remember who is responsible on Nov 6th!!
Ralph Crockford
7:59 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012
I was out of town during the erection of this 413' fiasco! It was great to come home to an eyesore in the beautiful town of NK. I hope the councilmembers are pleased with this dumb decision they will have to look at on a daily basis. One of the primary reasons for allowing this to happen was the threat of lawsuits against the town. Well when this fiasc starts to create problems for the residents you'll see a lot more lawsuits and more then likely for more dollars then the builder was suing for! Good work councilmambers, I hope you enjoyed your terms in office since you'll be gone come November!